I've asked myself this question more than once. The answer to it can probably only be that these moments when the market is frenzied and uncertain just skip. It is impossible to notice them immediately, but when 2-3 trades are closed at a loss in a row and it is impossible to determine either the maximum of the day or the minimum (because both are updated during the day), it is better to lower the scalping and rest until everything settles down. Another thing is when a person can't bring himself to miss a couple of days and constantly opens positions.
How to take from 1 to 3 points
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There is such a correct approach as to sit on the fence and watch the market, its chaotic movements, until it settles down.But that's the problem, Cho our psychology does not really accept this option.For some reason, we believe that you need to constantly be in the market.But just if you carefully examine this question, it turns out that it is not in the market-this is the only correct answer.Of course, someone will say that you need to trade correctly.But no trader can match the skill of the market.
Well, You are not trading on a coin, and if there is a TS, then there are clear rules for entering a position, and if you do not see them, then it is better to go to the fence, just do not invent signals, you need to wait for them,
and this is a PSYCHOLOGICAL factor that is sometimes the most difficult to cope with and if two moose in a row then you definitely should not enter for the third.
and this is a PSYCHOLOGICAL factor that is sometimes the most difficult to cope with and if two moose in a row then you definitely should not enter for the third.
victor kaskad
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Good afternoon. Who will ask you to specify 1-3 points per day or per transaction?
When I used scalping myself, I used the rollback method, and 70-80 percent of all trades were triggered. But for this strategy, you need to constantly sit in front of the monitor and catch sharp market movements. This did not suit me because I can not constantly sit at the computer and for this reason refused this method. The essence of the method is this we open two Windows one with 15min the second 1H and when both went trending and at 15 minutes there was 2 candles on the trend and the size of the candle is large at least 10 points at the peak we open an order for a rollback of 3-5 points. With a sharp movement in 90% of cases, the trend necessarily returns to the half of the candle and then again tends to follow the trend. For confidence, you can use the CCI, RSI indicator when they reach the overbought or oversold line, open a pullback order.
Gasi Burzhuev
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Answer: No way!
Because instead of 3 points, everyone wants to take 5, 8 or 10! And instead of a set stop of 3 points, everyone suffers 5, 10, 20 and 100 points against themselves
Because instead of 3 points, everyone wants to take 5, 8 or 10! And instead of a set stop of 3 points, everyone suffers 5, 10, 20 and 100 points against themselves
The psychological factor is really present. For example, I watched a similar video when a trader and a fairly young man sat and clicked several points on small timeframes, mainly on M1. Before that, it just worked out for him and quite well in total it came out for the day. To be honest, I just couldn't stand the strain. Here the character is such, and another, maybe there is nothing else to do. To whom that is shorter.
If you can count money, you will get half a point of profit, even if you close the deal with one minus point. A rebate return gives a one and a half point return on the spread, so it is profitable to close with a minus 1 point.
The one who trades PIP and has a goal of 1 point, he is quite stable and gets this 1 point. This method is familiar to me and I used it actively for a long time. I just remembered it now. Pipsing allows you to increase the Deposit 10 times per trading month. This system with Pipsing will allow you to close up to 150 profitable trades in 1...5 points per day. The amount of profit depends on the order volume. With skills, passion, curage and the desire to act like this, the result is very interesting, until the trading idea is lost.
The one who trades PIP and has a goal of 1 point, he is quite stable and gets this 1 point. This method is familiar to me and I used it actively for a long time. I just remembered it now. Pipsing allows you to increase the Deposit 10 times per trading month. This system with Pipsing will allow you to close up to 150 profitable trades in 1...5 points per day. The amount of profit depends on the order volume. With skills, passion, curage and the desire to act like this, the result is very interesting, until the trading idea is lost.
Gasi Burzhuev
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Guys, this isn't serious.
As for increasing the depot in scalping by 10 times in a trading month, it should also be mentioned that you can also add funds to your account 10 times a month in scalping. It's easy only on paper, it will endure everything.
As for increasing the depot in scalping by 10 times in a trading month, it should also be mentioned that you can also add funds to your account 10 times a month in scalping. It's easy only on paper, it will endure everything.
Gasi Burzhuev
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I am not such a big expert on the topic of Pipsing in 1-3 points, 150 transactions a day, not my topic.
This shows that the topic is not yours. But it is also clear that you are trying to study this topic. There is not enough knowledge and no one really reports anything useful. It will always be so. Who has knowledge that they just do not spread. First, there is no need to just spray the energy of knowledge into the void. It's all energy that costs money. Knowledge is not a light for everyone, it is a thin ray of light. You can also notice it in self-education, if you carefully observe what is happening on the chart. It is still desirable that someone taught you, then it will be easier to continue.
Your theme or not, it's all lyrics. If you need money, then any way in which money is earned will be yours. Pipsing is a very effective way to earn money. No other method earns more than when pipping money on Forex. In pipsovka, I am a superstar specialist, I traded this method for a long time, then I switched to other methods I don't understand why. All this periodically goes in a circle, one way or another.And as a result, a set of universal knowledge is recruited.
Pipsing is a thing))
Your theme or not, it's all lyrics. If you need money, then any way in which money is earned will be yours. Pipsing is a very effective way to earn money. No other method earns more than when pipping money on Forex. In pipsovka, I am a superstar specialist, I traded this method for a long time, then I switched to other methods I don't understand why. All this periodically goes in a circle, one way or another.And as a result, a set of universal knowledge is recruited.
Pipsing is a thing))
Gasi Burzhuev
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I don't try to study this topic because I'm not interested in it. If you read my post about not being able to take 1-3 points, then it's about something else. As a superstar, you should be able to see what it's all about. I'm more interested in the sea now. I with children since morning already 2 times swam on the Caspian sea. Weather +37. Now we are sitting in the shopping center of Makhachkala under air conditioning. Kids get along through the maze and I drink cold Pepsi and write this shit here. We'll cool off in an hour and go to the petting zoo. Good luck to you.
a4techctrl
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A person needs to close in profit by 1-3 points. No matter how long it takes, but within reason. At least a day or two, at least a couple of minutes. The main thing is the result. By the way, I have seen more than once a similar situation possible after the release of news (strong). There it is easy to catch the moment and take 1-3 points of profit if only when opening a trading order, you immediately set a take profit.
sashkill94
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When the news comes out, 1-3 points is a minuscule amount, and you will not have time to take so much, since there is a 5-minute rule. Not to be unfounded example:
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Here it was quite possible to have time to take 10-20 points, depending on the level of greed, but the main thing is to close in time.
In the same week, the pound 3 index came out and all at +10-20 points calmly.
The method of 1-3 points is quite consistent with almost any entry point that is not close to important levels. But you need to be ready to cut off at a loss, and not wait for days.
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Here it was quite possible to have time to take 10-20 points, depending on the level of greed, but the main thing is to close in time.
In the same week, the pound 3 index came out and all at +10-20 points calmly.
The method of 1-3 points is quite consistent with almost any entry point that is not close to important levels. But you need to be ready to cut off at a loss, and not wait for days.
This is how much a point can cost with a large Deposit and large orders. I personally do not see anything difficult in this, I usually wait for points 40 - 60. I can advise you to spend money on paid indicators. At the moment, I'm inclined to count. what the majority of traders passed on the trade with help of indicators. Recently, my indicators have started to show too accurately. I think this is due to the fact that the same type of market analysis algorithm is used and many traders adhere to signals in their trading.
victor kaskad
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Sorry, I forgot to ask, 1-3 points at 4 or 5 signs in the price, since 1-3 points at 4 signs means the same thing as 10-30 points at 5 signs, then we will proceed from this. This kind of trading is called pips, but I prefer scalping, where you can get more points from one transaction, why save on this if the price movement allows? I believe that each trade should be closed in profit, and the amount of profit depends on the price movement, which determines the size of the points taken (from 1 to how much to get).
I prefer to trade on 5 signs.
I once did some research on the size of candles on M15. It turns out that the maximum size of the M15 candle can be more than 700 points. There are 3-5 such candles per year (Buy and sell), not many, but there are numbers. For example, candles from 200 to 700 points for a history of 25,000 candles, there may be about 250-320, which means that about 1-2 candles per day. This is not so bad, and not all of them are from the news, not all of them. A creak with an indicator in the app. In the upper part of the indicator, the candle sizes are from open to Low (for village candles) or to High (for buy candles), and in the lower part, the candle sizes are Vice versa. The candles on Bay there are smaller sections on villages, and the candles sat on smaller pieces at buy. The dimensions take into account shadows.
I have a strategy for working with the price movement adviser. The price opens orders by its own movement, it remains only to close them in a timely manner. I have traded this strategy on a demo and live account. On the demo, trading was conducted without indicators for 12 months, the account history is in the app. The average monthly yield is more than 900%. On a real account, I traded for 4.5 months with one indicator, the average monthly profit is about 26%. Account history in the app. There are also drawbacks in the system, and drawdowns are not uncommon. In the example of the account history 6586985, there was a drawdown of 86% lasting about 3 months.
Now I'm working on reducing drawdowns, can anyone have any ideas?
I advise you not to limit yourself to 1-3 points, take everything that the market gives. Good luck!
I prefer to trade on 5 signs.
I once did some research on the size of candles on M15. It turns out that the maximum size of the M15 candle can be more than 700 points. There are 3-5 such candles per year (Buy and sell), not many, but there are numbers. For example, candles from 200 to 700 points for a history of 25,000 candles, there may be about 250-320, which means that about 1-2 candles per day. This is not so bad, and not all of them are from the news, not all of them. A creak with an indicator in the app. In the upper part of the indicator, the candle sizes are from open to Low (for village candles) or to High (for buy candles), and in the lower part, the candle sizes are Vice versa. The candles on Bay there are smaller sections on villages, and the candles sat on smaller pieces at buy. The dimensions take into account shadows.
I have a strategy for working with the price movement adviser. The price opens orders by its own movement, it remains only to close them in a timely manner. I have traded this strategy on a demo and live account. On the demo, trading was conducted without indicators for 12 months, the account history is in the app. The average monthly yield is more than 900%. On a real account, I traded for 4.5 months with one indicator, the average monthly profit is about 26%. Account history in the app. There are also drawbacks in the system, and drawdowns are not uncommon. In the example of the account history 6586985, there was a drawdown of 86% lasting about 3 months.
Now I'm working on reducing drawdowns, can anyone have any ideas?
I advise you not to limit yourself to 1-3 points, take everything that the market gives. Good luck!
victor kaskad
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I agree that it is scanty. But the source of long candles is far from news. Not every news, probably about 50%, does not give an impetus to the price movement in the form of a long candle. But long candlesticks, for example on M15, with a size of more than 200 points are available in the terminal. In the post 500 on the creak of the indicator, you can see that for the history of 25,000 (about a year) M15 candles of more than 220 points, 309 pieces turned out. Trading takes place on working days, which are about 250 a year. It turns out that every day (on average) long candles can be 1-2 pieces. There is something to work on.
Gasi Burzhuev
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Take the M5, put 2 movings on the chart, 600 and 2400. So bounce off them. The price from above falls down, touches the moving average, buy. And if the price flies to the moving average from the bottom up, then when you touch it, you sell. There are just 3-5 points. Directly charge 25% of the balance in the transaction. But you know, you can't go far on 1 instrument, with such a moving average. This theme is suitable for a large number of tools. As they say, test before you trade.
