Quantum London Trading Strategy
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Lexus$, Well, why not believe it? The dynamics were very good. I don't understand why he was so scared yesterday.
At the ECB meeting, the growth was by 400 points and the demo account was not destroyed, and there was not even a significant drawdown, and I got a good profit. After that, faith in the robot increased by an order of magnitude. And here it is... I've been trying for years, but it's no use. I tried a lot of different systems and techniques. I thought it would work on robots... Actually, I thought about robots only because I don't have time to trade with my hands. And about learning to trade-Yes, I agree. Still would know where you will learn.
In General, the trend was normal. Only in the last section, which is highlighted by a square, there are small losses. But if you take the entire trend of the day, the profit was 10%. I wrote in the posts above that I changed the settings to more gentle and the eintdepth3 parameter is 100. But I believe that the adviser will still merge even with sparing parameters, if you do not fasten it, for example, opening counter orders. You will still get a long recoilless trend.
Just for this strategy,you need a minimum Deposit of at least 4000-5000 and yesterday's trend would have ended in profit today, the price falls down all night and morning.Not one strategy without disadvantages does not work,it's all about the approach of each individual.Yesterday, I had a profit of 14%, and saw that the price will turn around, returned to large volumes twice hit the same price, but decided to sit...summary of plums.At the expense of pens, you are right,I also sell pens, just to patch up the psyche, to remove this "well, now I'll close it a little bit more"
Yes, the month on the server I have a demo account and also merged with 600 extra dollars yesterday. The real one worked for EURJPY. Everything was normal there. I worked two calls, one for sale, the other for purchase. For control, I kept a demo account with the same parameters synchronously. I checked the difference in performance. There is a difference, but not very big. Opening orders: in the first batch of 11 sales, both accounts have one - to-one. But the closing was different. On the demo, all orders closed at 133.98 and 133.97, but on the real market, they "smeared" from 133.98 to 134.05.
In the second batch, both accounts had 15 purchases, but the difference in opening three orders was 4, 3 and 1 point. And in real life, there was a failure in the order count: I opened 13 orders one at a time and 2 at a time for 2 lots. And on the demo everything worked according to the settings: 12 for 1 and 3 for 2. they Closed almost synchronously: on the demo, all 133.91, and on the real 14 for 133.91 and one for 133.99.
The ruinous nature of a long trend with small pullbacks for this system is clear at first glance. So I have GBPUSD and NZDUSD on the demo, this adviser has sent significant chunks of the Deposit and I left these pairs. I will remove the Euro and real today, just in case, and then suddenly there will charge the trend, although after analyzing the charts, this pair attracted me most.
In General, this system is the most reliable in the "semi-automatic" mode, according to the initial recommendations from the developer: on the pound, turn on at the end of the Asian session, catch the "wave" at the opening of Frankfurt and London and close by the end of the eurosession. I thus worked for 10 days on the pound and everything was very good, although, of course, not as profitable as when working around the clock on the server.
In the second batch, both accounts had 15 purchases, but the difference in opening three orders was 4, 3 and 1 point. And in real life, there was a failure in the order count: I opened 13 orders one at a time and 2 at a time for 2 lots. And on the demo everything worked according to the settings: 12 for 1 and 3 for 2. they Closed almost synchronously: on the demo, all 133.91, and on the real 14 for 133.91 and one for 133.99.
The ruinous nature of a long trend with small pullbacks for this system is clear at first glance. So I have GBPUSD and NZDUSD on the demo, this adviser has sent significant chunks of the Deposit and I left these pairs. I will remove the Euro and real today, just in case, and then suddenly there will charge the trend, although after analyzing the charts, this pair attracted me most.
In General, this system is the most reliable in the "semi-automatic" mode, according to the initial recommendations from the developer: on the pound, turn on at the end of the Asian session, catch the "wave" at the opening of Frankfurt and London and close by the end of the eurosession. I thus worked for 10 days on the pound and everything was very good, although, of course, not as profitable as when working around the clock on the server.
This is the wrong approach. Increasing the Deposit will only lead to more losses. Small numerous price stops will help you open more and more positions. Counting on the fact that there is enough money with increasing volume is like walking on a razor's edge. Well, he will get a position for all the money. The price goes in the wrong direction by 50 points and there is no Deposit. If the bill is small, then to hell with it. But we are interested in stability. So that you can operate with significant amounts without fear of losing them.
You know, I believe that the strategy has a place to be, but it lacks something, or look at the daily levels(if you trade with your hands).There was a signal somewhere near the level to enter, if in the middle-we are waiting.Bad for a minute there is no longer a period to check how the price behaved at least from the beginning of the year.But like or am I wrong the price is so sausage at the beginning of the month when the fate of the currency is decided and at the end of the month when the month closes?But definitely some kind of confirmation or at least a concept is necessary.One signal can't feed us,we've been feeding it for the last couple of days!!!!Is it the end of the year?Let's go close the bigwigs?And a set of new positions?Okay, this year I probably won't be able to trade any more,I'm leaving for work,but after NG I'll continue...
I agree with You,but we understand that this is Martin, and sooner or later he will merge the Deposit,but first, with a large Deposit,we have earned,part of the profit must be withdrawn,or all, depending on the depot.Secondly, stability, as I wrote in the post above, you need some kind of filter,you can't get far on some squares,I believe that you need to be tied to the levels.Now there is not even a multi-directional traffic from Frankfurt and London,as the idea should be, and was,(until we started testing the strategy, the last three months on the history was a plus )the price starts to go from the night in one direction so almost the whole day and goes, I think it's just the end of the year.So it's better to finish testing the demo before the end of the year.
Read the latest posts on the forum where this adviser is discussed. It is constantly being upgraded there, something went on about linking transactions to the Fibo grid. I downloaded the latest version: 1.6.1 m12-1[staxis]. I put two demo accounts on the server in parallel on EURJPY to compare the work with the previous one I used (1.6.1 rus). It's too early to draw conclusions, but the work on Friday shows that the new one opened not as early as the old one, and the deals are not already several at the same price. In general: the old 13 for 1 lot and 5 for 2 lots, and the new one for some reason only 7 for one lot and 2 for 2. Although in the settings, the lot should still increase every 12 transactions. But the result is more modest: the new one earned 2 times less than the old one. I still worked on EURJPY on Thursday and Friday. On Thursday, there was a fairly deep "hole", but the adviser successfully got out of it, although the entire first batch of orders for 1 lot and half of orders for 2 lots closed in the red, but the rest, which are 2, 5 and 10 pulled the closure into a completely normal plus. And on Friday, your pessimistic mood was transmitted to me and I closed the European session manually with minimal profit and turned off the adviser. Although, judging by the work on the demo account, it turned out that in vain. He euroassay all trades but one closed in positive territory and the us still worked fine. As a result, yesterday I earned only about 20% of what I could have done without getting involved in the work of the expert Advisor and not disabling it.
Disagree. If you do not set the lot size depending on the Deposit size, how will it increase the drawdown? On Martins, many people trade a fixed number and volume of lots, and those who are not too greedy get a fairly stable profit. Go through the forum and read the comments about the work of the Martins. They are mostly drained by those who want to turn 100 bucks into 1000 in three days. In addition, this system did very well on sharp jumps of the prices, as, for example, on December 3 the month. An ordinary Martin of the Autoprofit-3 type would stick a bunch of orders with an infinite volume growing there and merge the Deposit already in the middle of the price rise. The main drawback of this system so far, which I personally did not like, is that when working on the machine, it puts several orders at the same price. But it seems that the latest version got rid of this drawback. And the second drawback is that with a long trend without significant price pullbacks, it can close deals in the red. Judging by what they write about the latest version, you can put the command close only in the black. Although this is also a double-edged sword. In most cases, it is better to admit failure and suffer a loss than to leave a bundle of losing orders hanging around waiting for the price to return. On those screenshots that are posted on his work, there are, of course, steps down, but in General, the depot is moving up. This also happens in manual trading.
It is really easy. It will just open more positions. I had 2400 on my account at the time of the drain. The lot is selected at the minimum. The first batch of orders is 0.01, then 0.02. And so on. That was enough to drain it. Immediately there is a thought - " If you can limit the lot, you can limit the number of transactions."Of course, in my opinion, this can be done in the settings, but then how will the adviser make a profit? He may succeed, but the profit is likely to be small. If at all.
So in this expert Advisor, you can also set a binding: to Fibo, open trades only if the price is lower/higher than the previous order, set after how many points the next order will open, or after how many signals the next order will open.This can significantly reduce the drawdown.I had an opening below / above the price of the previous order, orders do not form as soon as the signal appeared and I think if I also had a Deposit of 2600 I would not have merged.Therefore, you need to experiment with the settings, and not stupidly leave them by default.
About the drain on "uncle Cola" I have not happened on any pair. Yes, and the maximum drawdown I've seen in 500-plus bucks - that's on $ 1,000 accounts. But I set a time limit for trading: from 02 to 24 GMT. Because of this, I have eurobucks merged almost $ 600-closed transactions at the end of the day in the red. Perhaps if I had put this pair on round-the-clock trading, it would have been visited by "Kolya". The same story was on GBPUSD on the server. There, the adviser drained a little at the end of the day, and when the total drain exceeded 200 dollars, I took this pair from the server. This expert Advisor also has the ability to limit not only the time, but also the trading cycles. When this function is enabled, a green button appears on the chart to enable the next cycle manually. I often use this function in my "semi-automatic" trading on GBPUSD. The settings adviser turned on at 03 GMT, placed a pack of orders in the Asian session, and at the opening of Europe, as a rule, the price "wags" in the other direction and everything closes in profit. After that, I usually turn on one more time on Europe. There was, however, one time when the entire cycle began in Asia, and ended already in America, nerves, of course, a little bit battered by this situation, but the profit as a result was the largest of all trading days. The General impression is that the EA is good in this semi-automatic mode.
The strategy is interesting to me, but it raises more questions than answers, so experts tell me please why you need to trade in the Frankfurt-London zone, what exactly is it connected with, I understand that one exchange ends and the other opens, but what does stochastic have to do with it? Can I trade at night or say in the morning or afternoon and evening? I look at what is based on the stochastic oscillator, which is redrawn sometimes here is the question: how many squares do I need to open a position? Is there any filter to filter out false signals?
The system itself was originally conceived based on the fact that the USDGBP pair, as a rule, moves in the opposite direction from the Frankfurt session in the London session, and in the Frankfurt session in the opposite direction from the price movement in the Asian session. And these" zigzags " strategy catches. Initially, this was the way I worked. It worked well. Then the system, as usual, our and not our "folk craftsmen" began to modernize and Supplement. There are new versions, new sets for other couples. As a result, the adviser began to be used around the clock. I personally tried many different currency pairs and vehicle versions on the demo. As a result, I stopped at version 1.6.1 M12-1. In it, of course, a lot of "bells and whistles" were screwed up, it could have been simpler. Many currency pairs were eliminated, as this vehicle "does not like" long trends with weak pullbacks - it can close deals at a loss. As a result, I work on real money on EURJPY - the adviser worked well on it all December. Now, because of the new year's fuss, there is no time for a long and detailed description of what's what. But if you want to learn more about Quantum, go to: http://forum.***************** I will only say that there are a considerable number of systems that use the "London breakthrough". You can see them here on the forum, but this one turned out to be the most interesting and promising for me personally.
LPiton,
I have also been looking at them for a long time, the idea itself and the overbought/oversold indicator seemed interesting. But with the adviser based on it, unfortunately, not everything turned out to be as beautiful as we would like. First of all, we were overloaded with various "Grail" upgrades, half of which I haven't figured out yet. Secondly, all these "crutches" have not yet added this "Grail" to it. Maybe it's not the owl's fault but mine, but no matter how much I tested and twisted the settings, I haven't achieved stable and even test results yet... Most likely, this PBX is not suitable for fully atomized trading and requires periodic manual intervention based on technical and fundamental analysis. But this is my personal opinion...
Periodically put different current versions on real, twisted the settings, but I'm not particularly excited about its work yet.
But despite this, I took a chance on Monday to put the latest current version on 2 currency pairs GBPAUD GBPCAD m1 https://forexdengi.com/threads/84545...1#post14147710
Periodically put different current versions on real, twisted the settings, but I'm not particularly excited about its work yet.
But despite this, I took a chance on Monday to put the latest current version on 2 currency pairs GBPAUD GBPCAD m1 https://forexdengi.com/threads/84545...1#post14147710
Good day to all! I am familiar with this strategy, but it is not very convenient to trade inside the day. I heard that there is an adviser for this strategy. Does anyone have it in this fan there is an up-to-date version of the adviser? Well, if you can help with the settings? Thanks.
For a long time, the owl worked on this strategy for me on the EURJPY pair. From December to mid-February, slowly but steadily gave a profit. And from the second half of February, it began to merge steadily and evenly. For three weeks I looked at this steady drain, but then I got tired and turned off the owl. Conclusion: auto trading with this owl around the clock is useless. But how to use its signals in manual trading turned out to be a pretty good idea. However, I did not work on this strategy manually regularly-if I had the time and mood, but on the GBPUSD and EURJPY pairs, it always brought a positive result. There were a couple of cases when I went to zero, but, surprisingly, I never finished in the red. So, in moderate doses, this strategy can be considered useful. And "owl", of course, so-so. Although there is a small community of enthusiasts ( or was - I haven't looked at them for a long time) who are constantly tweaking something, but there is not much success.