Sausage scalping or 200 grams per sample

fedornabilkin

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Приветствую.

Ждем колбасу, ищем пик (верхний или нижний), входим в рынок, забираем 20% от размера колбасы.


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Любая колбаса откатывается на 20% в любом случае.

На треть откатывается в 90% случаев.



Гарантировано забрать 20% колбасы не просто и сложность заключается в нахождении пика.

Поэтому заходим на предполагаемом пике маленьким лотом, например 0.02

если это не пик и колбаса продолжает расти, заходим удвоенным лотом 0.04



Лучше всего отрабатывают колбаски от 300 пунктов.

Обязательно посмотрите историю и отыщите колбаски. Попадаются разные: краковские, сервелаты и докторские...



Меня это как-то сильно зацепило, поэтому буду изучать и анализировать. Особенно интересует выход по ТП и 100% от колбасы
 

fedornabilkin

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Sausage in real time.

Guaranteed 200 grams have already passed, moving to the floor of the stick



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We take care of our stomach, take half a stick of sausage and wait for the next one.


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Reverser

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Fun name and approach, respect


And three important questions at once:

1. Why m15?

2. 300 points - is it a 5 sign or a 4 sign?

3. do we Put a General stop on it? Because without it, we are averaging the" sausage", and even with Martin.
 

fedornabilkin

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1. Scalping is the same, so I work for 15 minutes. By the way, there is a trend on the day, but did not check.

2. 300 points is a five-digit number.

3. Of the foot is not immediately put, if you can't increase the lot, the owner closed the first failed order. Since sausage can be rolled back for three days before shutting down the computer put the total for all SL and TP significantly move to more of SL.
 

Reogen

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The strategy is similar to catching pullbacks on impulse movements, there are a number of nuances that you need to know when doing this.M15 does not always show the full picture, so you need to look at H1, stochastic will help you understand what is happening now, overbought or Vice versa, a good reversal indicator is the pin bar, after it you can enter.One of the features and tricks can serve as a news release, the momentum went against the main trend and our task is to enter at the peak, when volatility decreases, the profit can be very large, when the movement goes along the trend, stop after passing 30 points to move to the BU.
 

Reverser

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The adviser is needed to check these conditions on the history, in principle, the same pin bar can be described, although it is clear that sometimes you can visually understand that if the bar is 30 points, then the rollback still does not" smell", and the adviser in this case will put the first order, nevertheless, you can at least assess the profitability of this strategy. Because I have noticed for a very long time that many strategies work, and as soon as you start testing for a year (at least), you see "narrow" places where the strategy does not work at all and leads either to large losses or to a drain.
 

fedornabilkin

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Reogen , all right, but stochastic and overbought is distracting. I certainly pay attention to the big picture. I don't look at H1, but watch the forecasts from trading Central.

I think no expert Advisor or indicator will clearly show when the sausage has reached its peak.



Reverser , you need 100% confidence, and the more information, the more doubts about the correctness of the decision. Why do we need a year? We work inside the day.



Yesterday's sausage continues to roll back productively.


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Reverser

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You are right, doubts sometimes really get in the way. Another question is that we are averaging using this strategy, although in the last screenshot I see that your averaging is not quite classic, but still. In other words, statistics for the same year could find bottlenecks for different instruments, for example, in order not to trade on them at all. Even if you take open orders on the last screen, imagine that the price would go up by 200-300 points (4 digits) with no candle, but without a rollback smoothly for several days, this is certainly not every day on the market, but it happened. And then what to do with those orders that opened at the very bottom or at the top against the trend, and what to do with top-up orders, or rather with their lot?
 

fedornabilkin

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So after all, this is scalping, as soon as not there, then we close at a loss.

One of the most difficult things is to close a loss. As one of the forum members said: orders are employees of our company. If the employee is bad, we fire them.

So here, if the order bears the loss, then we're shutting it down. At what we work locally.



If we have a series of Martin orders, then any movement that guarantees at least some profit, even if it is 3-5 points on the five-sign, I immediately close, forget and do not remember. I regard this as a failure.



Now a sausage is being formed for the pound, I am waiting for the peak and will be ready to buy. Please note that the trend is downward for higher timeframes.
 

Reverser

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Yes, with employees an interesting example.


I basically understand you, but still the question remains, where to close a losing order? You just understand that if there is a strategy, then there must be clear conditions under which you see that the order has already passed (so to speak) the point of no return and you need to close it. If you act solely on the situation, you can get on some impulse movement that will bring a serious loss.



By the way, I did not wait for one "sausage" in 30p for the pound, but entered the purchase for 3 small, but also fresh "shpikachkam", as a result, 20% of the goal is worked out and +5 points. This was such a test, the price by the way went where it should, you could take more.
 

fedornabilkin

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Complete agreement. Therefore, we go in a small lot, if we went early, we increase it.

As a large lot rolled back, we fix the profit. A small lot can not be closed at all. If you look at the history of M15, then every sausage in the rollback. Some immediately, some after 3 days.

But it's easier for me to close the loss, forget about it and not remember. It is easier, easier and there is no emotional(psychological) load.

By the way, sausage-shpikachki 100-150 points also work well, but they are somehow not comfortable. The taste is strange




Here, for example, I completed the rollback of yesterday's sausage today by TP


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You can see three orders for Martin, but the last one(lower) I hurried to put it out.

I wanted to close 100% of the sausage, but I got a forecast about the global trend and for good reason
 

fedornabilkin

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A similar case is happening now. The sausage is not weak, but nevertheless continues to grow for the fourth candle. Closed -2.78 and the soul does not hurt. I'll wait a little longer, maybe I'll go on sale with the same lot.

And the sausage will still roll back.
 

Reverser

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Yes, small bars are a bit dangerous, if you take the very essence of this strategy, because a quick rollback (logically) occurs exactly when there is some strong movement, and it is usually still in the size of one "sausage" on m15, small "shpikachki" may well not roll back. I went in there because the spikes were good. They clearly indicated that the price will roll back, and here it even broke through the high of the top "shpikachki". But it's better not to enter this way, it's risky.












Yes, in principle, the average stop can be so to say "suffered" by testing on a demo, so to speak.

In General, starting tomorrow I will test this strategy more closely, and I will even think about how to automate it.

Thanks for the idea!
 

fedornabilkin

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I wouldn't bother.

The maximum that can be done is to automatically set the SL with the specified level for any order, if there is no SL. And display the recommended minimum lot on the monitor.

If the Deposit is 500, then obviously we will start with 0.02, or even 0.01. But if the Deposit is 3000, then the starting lot can be increased.

Calculate in such a way that there would be 5 orders for sausage with an increase in the lot for Martin of the type 0.02, 0.04, 0.08, 0.16, 0.32

Five, because I haven't put up more than three yet, and I don't think it's worth it.
 

Reverser

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Yes, you know, I'll probably test it manually for now. The lot will be minimal, i.e. the first order at the expected peak will be-0.01

I will watch five pairs at the same time: EURUSD, GBPUSD, USDJPY, AUDUSD and USDCAD - TF 15, 5-sign.

Why exactly for these, well, first of all, the spread is the smallest on them, except for the pound, and secondly, I'm more used to trading on them.

I will only focus on bars of at least 25 points(4 digits). I will put a stop on the high or open of the current 15-minute bar, that is, around 25 points. Orders, as you advised, will be closed separately or by the total profit, if the series was not very successful.
 

fedornabilkin

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Yes, bigger sausages work better. In the footsteps of the question as always difficult.

I closed the loss and the question is why I was twitching? Sausage rolls back



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Reverser

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Well, I also have such an ambiguous day, although there will still be movement, I think.

But so far the results are as follows,


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I'll explain the screen. I entered all the same not on bars in 25P, and I must say in vain, this rule should definitely be in absolute, but better in 30p, i.e. as originally intended.

For the Euro closed on TP, for the pound closed all orders in +1P, except for the first (0.01) while I salted it, I'll look at it until the loss.

The result was +6P.

But if I entered only a pound on that big "sausage", then there would be a profit of +25P(4 sign) and no losses at all. In other words, he hurried.
 

fedornabilkin

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Yes, I was a pound too quick. As a result, I closed two losses, and the topmost order closed in plus, but I did not cover the losses.

Looking at the bullish trend, on a pullback, entered the purchase has not yet closed.

As for the entrance to the sausage, I think we should wait for the second candle and take our time. Or even wait for a small vlet after the pulse and only enter it.

This week there will probably be a pullback, you can sell with a short TP.


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Reverser

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Yes, I still closed the first order with 0.01 lot for the pound today. As a result, yesterday was a loss, but I repeat, if it were possible to enter clearly on the rollback of the 30-point candle, the one that is last on my screen, then there would be a profit of at least 25P. So now I will only wait for large sausages, otherwise you can"sausage" a lot of orders. Yesterday, by the way, the pound classically went up behind the channel, without a pullback.

Today I haven't opened yet, and unfortunately, I won't be able to sit at the market all day, there will be a break in the area from 3 PM Moscow time to 7 PM.
 
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